But the Republican "hive mind" approach to governance is even less popular. During that same period, GOP numbers haven't budged -- up or down -- from 40%. And, to be absolutely honest here, if Democrats started doing the patented GOP lockstep, it'd freak me out a little. Let's face it, that "one party, one mind" thing is a bit creepy and cultish.
Still, it'd be nice if Democrats could at least agree on the broadstrokes. But some recognize that what we call a "healthcare system" is deeply, deeply flawed and in need of a drastic overhaul, while others say it's only a kinda-sorta problem and the system only needs a little tweak here and there. There is no fundamental agreement on even the scope or depth of the problem. And this morning, I have no idea which way we're going with this thing.
Some of us woke up today to see this story making the rounds:
Associated Press:
...Some Democrats said Democratic researchers have concluded lately that a strong-arm tactic on Senate health care legislation that would negate the need for any GOP votes might be more effective than previously thought.
The strategy, called "reconciliation," allows senators to get around a bill-killing filibuster without mustering the 60 votes usually needed. Democrats control 60 of the Senate's 100 seats, but some moderate Senate Democrats have expressed reservations about the Democratic-backed health care overhaul plan.
[...]
While always contentious, reconciliation lets the Senate pass some measures with a simple majority vote. Non-budget-related items can be challenged, however, and some lawmakers say reconciliation would knock so many provisions from Obama's health care plan that the result would be "Swiss cheese."
Democratic aides say they increasingly believe those warnings are overblown.
Sounds as good as it does bad, doesn't it? Budget reconciliation is kind of a gamble and not as simple as some have made it seem. The idea would be to split the bill into two parts -- one that's entirely budgetary and one that's not -- and try to pass them both. It seems to me that a public option, being a government funded health plan, would be almost entirely budgetary -- after all, it's all about the government spending money -- so that might be one way to get it to pass. But the other bill could wind up pretty lousy, with poison pill amendments and bad policy ideas. Republicans would do what they always do; load it up with Republican provisions, then vote against it anyway.
All in all, reconciliation sounds like a bad idea. That is, unless you consider the other idea. While the reconciliation story may be the first thing some saw this morning, another story indicates almost the complete opposite.
The Hill:
Senate Democratic leaders and negotiators have recommitted themselves to a bipartisan healthcare deal, despite an August recess characterized by partisan sniping that prompted senior White House officials to consider a go-it-alone approach.
The renewed calls for patience and bipartisan talks have saved, at least temporarily, the healthcare debate from devolving into full-blown partisan chaos.
...Senate Democrats and Republicans at the center of the debate have said a deal can be salvaged.
A senior aide to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) said Wednesday that Democratic leaders would prefer to advance a bipartisan bill through the Senate, instead of forcing it through using special budgetary rules.
Oh, for the love of... What the hell? Have they been listening to these guys lately? Many Republicans won't even vote for the lousy co-op idea; how can you possibly knock out a bipartisan agreement? And one of those "Republicans at the center of the debate" -- Chuck Grassley -- has been so two-faced in dealing with Democrats that he's become the posterboy for bad faith. Anyone with a freakin' brain knows he's just trying to undermine the process to the point where support for reform collapses.
I spend a lot of time cursing Harry Reid in this space for a reason. He's a seriously awful majority leader. I say it a lot because it's true, but Reid seems to believe it's his job to get bills passed unanimously. I don't think I've ever seen a senate leader who was so terrified of a fight. Especially with Republicans. In this case, Reid is actually willing to fight with fellow Democrats to avoid a fight with Republicans. A monkey could do a better job. In fact, a drunken monkey could do a better job.
And where's the president in all this? He says he hopes the final bill is bipartisan. Go ahead and fall over now.
On the bright side, Obama said he is "absolutely confident that we are going to get a bill, and I hope it's bipartisan." So the message here is "we're getting a bill, bipartisan or not." But the language is diplomatic. You're the leader, Mr. President. Of everything. Democrats control the house, the senate, and the White House and the President is the leader of his party. Now would be an excellent time to start telling people what to do.
Because everyone else clearly have no idea.
-Wisco
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3 comments:
Yes. More backbone please.
Republicans only favor reconciliation when it's a giant handout to big corporations.
When the Democrats even hint at reconciliation for things that directly benefit the majority of the people, rather than the minority of unethical corporate thieves, it's called, "Chicago style politics." Sen. Kit Bond(R-MO) said back in March, “In this post-partisan time of Barack Obama, we’re seeing a little Chicago politics. They steamroller those who disagree with them, then, I guess in Chicago, they coat them in cement and drop them in the river.”
Yes. You'll just be dumped in the river of continued employment and all the benefits that go with it, including collecting millions from corporations in danger of losing their government protections while polluting the environment, banking fraud, and profiting from sick and dying poor people.
Sen. Judd Gregg(R-NH)pretty much said the same thing about cement shoes in Chicago.
Senators Orrin Hatch(R-UT) and John Kyl(R-AZ) share the same view of democratic party reconciliation movement: “purely partisan exercise.”
But history and reality has NEVER been a Republican strength. That's why Reagan is the greatest president of all time, Sarah Palin and John McCain are Mavericks, and Republicans are the only ones who can keep America safe.
When it was reconciliation favoring corporate drilling in Alaska or shameless tax cuts for the top 2%, Republicans, especially the aforementioned, were all about doing what's best for corporations and the wealthiest among us.
All done under reconciliation:
– The 2001 Bush Tax Cuts [HR 1836, 3/26/01]
– The 2003 Bush Tax Cuts [HR 2, 3/23/03]
– Tax Increase Prevention and Reconciliation Act of 2005 [HR 4297, 5/11/06]
– The Deficit Reduction Act of 2005 [H. Con Res. 95, 12/21/05
From ThinkProgress: Gregg defended using the reconciliation procedure to open the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge for domestic drilling in 2005, arguing, “The president asked for it, and we’re trying to do what the president asked for.”
Republicans used reconciliation for key provisions in the "Contract With America."
I'm not a fan of reconciliation in this instance because there's too much that can be lost in this all too important issue. The fact that there's only about 43 Dem senators who would be likely to support the Public Option, according to Nate Silver, is the real shame and an indication of just how entrenched corporations like the health insurance gangsters actually are and how effective their status quo propaganda has been.
Max Baucus has about a half dozen industry lobbyists on his staff working on a "bipartisan" bill.
It's bullshit and it's high time elected reps start working on behalf of the majority of the people who put Dems in control, and not a minority of corporate thieves who got us here in the first place.
And just because it bears repeating, grow a spine Harry Reid! You're a former boxer. Throw a fucking punch! Just one. In the name of the people.
Medicare for all!
American lives are NOT fucking widgets.
The proper role of government is to protect the people from goons like health insurance scoundrels.
I came to the conclusion that Dems and Repubs have the same problem. Neither of them have yet realised who won the election.
The Dems are still doing what they did in opposition: put up lots of ideas, and say the Republicans suck. The Repubs are still doing what they did in government: don't engage in debate, just shout it down.
Gains in next year's elections will go to the first side to wake up and realise who's actually in charge now.
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